A term that comes up frequently throughout Judith Lorber's "Paradoxes of gender" is the term "construction of gender". We have to construct a gender in a society that has set its own rules of what the genders are, how many there are, and how you should act if you fall in this or that category of gender. The gender you're building will give you a social status, and with that status you will be able to identify where exactly you stand in that society. So basically, one of the ways I think genderism affects our society is through a stratification within our society that sometimes can be unfair.
According to Judith Lorber in her book "Paraxodes of gender- Chapter 1(night to his day)" she commented "gender is one of the major ways that human beings organized their lives(15:1)". Genderism just does not affect our society, actually IS our society itself. It is our way to express who we think we are and represent our difference from each other.
It affect our gender and identity by telling us what roles we are suppose to play.Each society has different ideas about gender.In American society unfortunately man and woman are not treated equally. Male is still the supreme gender. Men and woman should be treated equally.
Genderism affects our society because men are known to be more supreme than females. They are suppose to do "manly" things, like open a door for a lady, go to work while the female stays home to cook and clean. This is just how men are suppose to behave based on our society. based on your gender your suppose to act a certain way or do certain things, thats just how society is. I Believe society constructs how your gender behaves.
Gender plays a big part in society and how it functions.One example Judith Lorber uses in "paradoxes of gender" is the man in the subway with his child, he is seen taking care of his child and everyone is looking at him like its a show and smiling and approving of him being a good dad. Gender is a main way people organize there lives and there social life. It affects our daily life on a large scale from how we act, to how we see and treat people. the example of the man in the train is a prime example since it's a man he is smiled at in approval being applauded by the passengers silently, how ever if this where a woman taking care of the baby she would not get as much attention it would not be such a big deal because it is expected of a woman to take care of a child.
I think gender affects our society by having certain expectations for each gender. Females are expected to be seen at home caring for the children while the males are seen working and providing food on the table. Lorber says "Human females can become husbands and fathers, and human males can become wives and mothers..." Now, I think most of society has changed their point of view on that. Men and women are now seen switching roles.
genderism affects our society because it plays a big role in our society. It basically means whats expected from male and female, how they have to each act and behave. the fact that they have to have a big difference, behave differently because of the difference of their sex. According to the text "night of his day" by judith Lorber, "As a process, gender creates the social differences that define "Woman" and "Man" so it really does affect society because its just basically everyones way of life, and everyone just trying to fit in society, behavind how they are supposed to behave, according to their gender.
I think the gender affects our society. Gender plays an important role in the society. In the article “Night to His Day”, it mentions that every society uses gender grades. So, the gender status that people have will affect what role people will play in the society because it says that one way for society to choose people for different tasks is based on the gender. Also, different genders have different behaviors according to their sexes. In the past, women used to say at home and take care of children and men worked for the whole family. Now, the gender role changed a little bit. Women can work and may have the same job as man do. Men also can do what women used to do. Just like the example mentioned in the beginning: a man with a child in the stroller on the subway. These changes that people make may affect the society. So, the rules that society set up for the gender eventually will make the society reflect.
Genderrism effects our society because it sets different standards for males and females. The different standards can serve as barriers by limiting education and job opportunities for each gender. The differentiation of both genders can leave to prejudice.
Gender is applied to us as soon as we are born. It affects our society on a regular basis, but society also constructs how it affects everyone in the society. After reading this passage I see that gender affects our society negatively. We have a certain image of how a woman is suppose to look and act. The same thing applies to how a man is suppose to be. Being social everyday involves people thinking about gender whether its obvious or not, as Judith Lorber states on page 14 we feel uncomfortable until we have successfully placed the other person in a gender status. We tend to think that sex and gender are equivalent.On page 17 it shows us different. It basically connects back to the first reading where gender is being taught and learned but the sex can be different. Gender isn't proved by the genitalia.You can be a man externally and a woman internally. It affects us so much that sometimes if a parent sees a female having tomboy traits they would do their best to change that. That scenario is being shown on page 23. What does being feminine really mean? Just because people say you have to look and act a certain way to be a female doesn't mean it's true. People's expectations aren't always right. If what some people say is right then physical appearance would be what would determine gender.
Gender had become a normal topic to talk about in our society, obviously because it is impossible to ignored it when we are part of it. Thus, it takes an important place in our society, because we start to speculate and judge other base on what they look like, therefore we make the conclusion of what gender they are and this end up in us jugging them base in whether or not they are dressed up as they should or if what they are doing goes with they gender. My point is that genderism is very common in our society, as established by Judith Lorber "is like thinking about whether the sun will come up", therefore is something that we all genders have in common, and make us expect things that probably sometimes are that going to be what we think or believe.
In the article, Lorber states that "gender boundaries are breach able, and individual and socially organized shifts from one gender to another calls attention to cultural, social, or aesthetic dissonances. This is very true; usually we look the other way when we see a transvestite walking down the street, because to us it is not normal for an individual to stray from his/her assigned gender. I wonder sometimes what goes through the minds of many transvestites and/or transsexuals; is it that they are born knowing they were born in the wrong body or is this something that they learn as they get older and go through different experiences in life? Society likes structure and order, and anything that hints at abnormality raises an eyebrow. I'm not saying transvestites are abnormal, but it must be hard for them to live a normal life, when people have such stringent ideas on how men are supposed to stay as men and women as women, there is no way around it. Personally, I think if a person is born biologically male, he should stay as a male and same goes for females. I don't believe in the "born in the wrong body agenda" that many people claim happens. So going back to Bushra's question, I think society affects our gender substantially because from the day a person is born, he or she is already playing a huge role in the gender schema. I like to compare it to a puppet show; the parents of a child pull the strings to make the puppet(child) behave however the parents wish. Also mentioned by Lorber, society has assigned duties to members of either race i.e. women should marry and have kids; men should work and provide for the family. When these roles get confused, ideas of masculine women and feminine men come into play. This is perfectly fine, we live in the 21st century and times have changed, so if a man wants to be more loving towards his children or if a woman wants to work and be independent, those are personal choices and society shouldn't interfere with them.
Genderism affects society by creating differences between men and women everyday. According to the author Judith Lobor in "Paradoxes of gender" shes shows us an experience she had while she was on the subway. She saw a well dressed man with a 1-year-old child, and everyone was staring at him to see a father role in society and that made everyone happy. We are so used to see mothers that if we see a father, it kind of is surprising. Another example of how genderism affects society is the way the gender behaves. Behavior is the most important thing, for example if a woman acts horrible then the society with look at her in a whole different way. In Society, everyone has a different perspective of everyone and in genderism it depends on how you act, dress, and so forth.
All these comments are great, and we should discuss further some of the points you bring up: gender expectations and how these impact our everyday choices, can we analyze gender effectively since it pervades every aspect of our life and it also helps us "organize" as well as categorize out lives, how much of a choice do we have when it comes to gender and how we 'do gender' to use Lorber's phrase. We can also ask how does our society construct/define gender?
Most distinctions between genders are innocuous. It is hardly detrimental to society if a boy plays with cars and if a girl plays with dolls. It doesn't constitute a calamity so it shouldn't be shocking that most people don't bother to question the constructions of gender in our cerebral nation. I'll eschew saying society. I'm not going to say it doesn't matter if boys or girls have distinctions but i propose that most of it's empty. Think about it as banal as it is. Articles of clothing actually brightens up the cherished differences of individuals, in which everyone thinks themselves somehow unique despite the shared land they all live in. It's a good thing that they are distinctions, for the most part.
The idea of one gender being superior over the other is still in effect til this day. There's still a gap of recognition between women and men. Whether we like to believe it or not, our society is still in favor of men more so than women even though feminism is growing strong. We see it in career salaries and within the career fields. Fact is, men are still being treated a little higher than women with a higher paying salary. Even within the career/job fields, the automotive field, the video game industry, and etc. is mainly male dominate. We're categorized and put into our roles in society by our gender and as a result, they are expectations of what our roles can and cannot do.
For instance, women are expected to be a good wife by staying home, taking care of the kids, cleaning, cooking and support her husband where as men are expected to be a good husband by working and support his family by paying the bills and so forth. It would go farther with what our gender is expected to know like women should know how to cook as men should know how to fix the car or plumbing pipes and such. A better example of our society favoring men than women would be the controversial issue of sex. Women are expected to remain pure until marriage and if they do lose their virginity before then, they're considered impure and a whore.They're dirty and bad to society. However, when a man sleeps around with many women, his reputation isn't tainted at all, instead, he gets recognition and an ego boost.
Our gender roles in society; the ideas of our roles of what we should do and shouldn't do, what we can and cannot do will stay in their place until we're able to break society. Until we are able to break through and escape the old traditions, ideas and grasp the concept of independent females and fully embrace the idea of feminism, our roles will always be defined by society.
A term that comes up frequently throughout Judith Lorber's "Paradoxes of gender" is the term "construction of gender". We have to construct a gender in a society that has set its own rules of what the genders are, how many there are, and how you should act if you fall in this or that category of gender. The gender you're building will give you a social status, and with that status you will be able to identify where exactly you stand in that society. So basically, one of the ways I think genderism affects our society is through a stratification within our society that sometimes can be unfair.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Judith Lorber in her book "Paraxodes of gender- Chapter 1(night to his day)" she commented "gender is one of the major ways that human beings organized their lives(15:1)". Genderism just does not affect our society, actually IS our society itself. It is our way to express who we think we are and represent our difference from each other.
ReplyDeleteIt affect our gender and identity by telling us what roles we are suppose to play.Each society has different ideas about gender.In American society unfortunately man and woman are not treated equally. Male is still the supreme gender. Men and woman should be treated equally.
ReplyDeleteGenderism affects our society because men are known to be more supreme than females. They are suppose to do "manly" things, like open a door for a lady, go to work while the female stays home to cook and clean. This is just how men are suppose to behave based on our society. based on your gender your suppose to act a certain way or do certain things, thats just how society is. I Believe society constructs how your gender behaves.
ReplyDeleteGender plays a big part in society and how it functions.One example Judith Lorber uses in "paradoxes of gender" is the man in the subway with his child, he is seen taking care of his child and everyone is looking at him like its a show and smiling and approving of him being a good dad. Gender is a main way people organize there lives and there social life. It affects our daily life on a large scale from how we act, to how we see and treat people. the example of the man in the train is a prime example since it's a man he is smiled at in approval being applauded by the passengers silently, how ever if this where a woman taking care of the baby she would not get as much attention it would not be such a big deal because it is expected of a woman to take care of a child.
ReplyDeleteI think gender affects our society by having certain expectations for each gender. Females are expected to be seen at home caring for the children while the males are seen working and providing food on the table.
ReplyDeleteLorber says "Human females can become husbands and fathers, and human males can become wives and mothers..." Now, I think most of society has changed their point of view on that. Men and women are now seen switching roles.
genderism affects our society because it plays a big role in our society. It basically means whats expected from male and female, how they have to each act and behave. the fact that they have to have a big difference, behave differently because of the difference of their sex. According to the text "night of his day" by judith Lorber, "As a process, gender creates the social differences that define "Woman" and "Man" so it really does affect society because its just basically everyones way of life, and everyone just trying to fit in society, behavind how they are supposed to behave, according to their gender.
ReplyDeleteI think the gender affects our society. Gender plays an important role in the society. In the article “Night to His Day”, it mentions that every society uses gender grades. So, the gender status that people have will affect what role people will play in the society because it says that one way for society to choose people for different tasks is based on the gender. Also, different genders have different behaviors according to their sexes. In the past, women used to say at home and take care of children and men worked for the whole family. Now, the gender role changed a little bit. Women can work and may have the same job as man do. Men also can do what women used to do. Just like the example mentioned in the beginning: a man with a child in the stroller on the subway. These changes that people make may affect the society. So, the rules that society set up for the gender eventually will make the society reflect.
ReplyDeleteGenderrism effects our society because it sets different standards for males and females. The different standards can serve as barriers by limiting education and job opportunities for each gender. The differentiation of both genders can leave to prejudice.
ReplyDeleteGender is applied to us as soon as we are born. It affects our society on a regular basis, but society also constructs how it affects everyone in the society. After reading this passage I see that gender affects our society negatively. We have a certain image of how a woman is suppose to look and act. The same thing applies to how a man is suppose to be. Being social everyday involves people thinking about gender whether its obvious or not, as Judith Lorber states on page 14 we feel uncomfortable until we have successfully placed the other person in a gender status. We tend to think that sex and gender are equivalent.On page 17 it shows us different. It basically connects back to the first reading where gender is being taught and learned but the sex can be different. Gender isn't proved by the genitalia.You can be a man externally and a woman internally. It affects us so much that sometimes if a parent sees a female having tomboy traits they would do their best to change that. That scenario is being shown on page 23. What does being feminine really mean? Just because people say you have to look and act a certain way to be a female doesn't mean it's true. People's expectations aren't always right. If what some people say is right then physical appearance would be what would determine gender.
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ReplyDeleteGender had become a normal topic to talk about in our society, obviously because it is impossible to ignored it when we are part of it. Thus, it takes an important place in our society, because we start to speculate and judge other base on what they look like, therefore we make the conclusion of what gender they are and this end up in us jugging them base in whether or not they are dressed up as they should or if what they are doing goes with they gender. My point is that genderism is very common in our society, as established by Judith Lorber "is like thinking about whether the sun will come up", therefore is something that we all genders have in common, and make us expect things that probably sometimes are that going to be what we think or believe.
ReplyDeleteIn the article, Lorber states that "gender boundaries are breach able, and individual and socially organized shifts from one gender to another calls attention to cultural, social, or aesthetic dissonances. This is very true; usually we look the other way when we see a transvestite walking down the street, because to us it is not normal for an individual to stray from his/her assigned gender. I wonder sometimes what goes through the minds of many transvestites and/or transsexuals; is it that they are born knowing they were born in the wrong body or is this something that they learn as they get older and go through different experiences in life? Society likes structure and order, and anything that hints at abnormality raises an eyebrow. I'm not saying transvestites are abnormal, but it must be hard for them to live a normal life, when people have such stringent ideas on how men are supposed to stay as men and women as women, there is no way around it. Personally, I think if a person is born biologically male, he should stay as a male and same goes for females. I don't believe in the "born in the wrong body agenda" that many people claim happens. So going back to Bushra's question, I think society affects our gender substantially because from the day a person is born, he or she is already playing a huge role in the gender schema. I like to compare it to a puppet show; the parents of a child pull the strings to make the puppet(child) behave however the parents wish. Also mentioned by Lorber, society has assigned duties to members of either race i.e. women should marry and have kids; men should work and provide for the family. When these roles get confused, ideas of masculine women and feminine men come into play. This is perfectly fine, we live in the 21st century and times have changed, so if a man wants to be more loving towards his children or if a woman wants to work and be independent, those are personal choices and society shouldn't interfere with them.
ReplyDeleteGenderism affects society by creating differences between men and women everyday. According to the author Judith Lobor in "Paradoxes of gender" shes shows us an experience she had while she was on the subway. She saw a well dressed man with a 1-year-old child, and everyone was staring at him to see a father role in society and that made everyone happy. We are so used to see mothers that if we see a father, it kind of is surprising. Another example of how genderism affects society is the way the gender behaves. Behavior is the most important thing, for example if a woman acts horrible then the society with look at her in a whole different way. In Society, everyone has a different perspective of everyone and in genderism it depends on how you act, dress, and so forth.
ReplyDeleteAll these comments are great, and we should discuss further some of the points you bring up: gender expectations and how these impact our everyday choices, can we analyze gender effectively since it pervades every aspect of our life and it also helps us "organize" as well as categorize out lives, how much of a choice do we have when it comes to gender and how we 'do gender' to use Lorber's phrase.
ReplyDeleteWe can also ask how does our society construct/define gender?
Most distinctions between genders are innocuous. It is hardly detrimental to society if a boy plays with cars and if a girl plays with dolls. It doesn't constitute a calamity so it shouldn't be shocking that most people don't bother to question the constructions of gender in our cerebral nation. I'll eschew saying society. I'm not going to say it doesn't matter if boys or girls have distinctions but i propose that most of it's empty. Think about it as banal as it is. Articles of clothing actually brightens up the cherished differences of individuals, in which everyone thinks themselves somehow unique despite the shared land they all live in. It's a good thing that they are distinctions, for the most part.
ReplyDeleteThe idea of one gender being superior over the other is still in effect til this day. There's still a gap of recognition between women and men. Whether we like to believe it or not, our society is still in favor of men more so than women even though feminism is growing strong. We see it in career salaries and within the career fields. Fact is, men are still being treated a little higher than women with a higher paying salary. Even within the career/job fields, the automotive field, the video game industry, and etc. is mainly male dominate. We're categorized and put into our roles in society by our gender and as a result, they are expectations of what our roles can and cannot do.
ReplyDeleteFor instance, women are expected to be a good wife by staying home, taking care of the kids, cleaning, cooking and support her husband where as men are expected to be a good husband by working and support his family by paying the bills and so forth. It would go farther with what our gender is expected to know like women should know how to cook as men should know how to fix the car or plumbing pipes and such. A better example of our society favoring men than women would be the controversial issue of sex. Women are expected to remain pure until marriage and if they do lose their virginity before then, they're considered impure and a whore.They're dirty and bad to society. However, when a man sleeps around with many women, his reputation isn't tainted at all, instead, he gets recognition and an ego boost.
Our gender roles in society; the ideas of our roles of what we should do and shouldn't do, what we can and cannot do will stay in their place until we're able to break society. Until we are able to break through and escape the old traditions, ideas and grasp the concept of independent females and fully embrace the idea of feminism, our roles will always be defined by society.